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I am finding that the more I pray, the more vague my prayers become. I feel this is contrary to popular teachings. Lord, how do you see this person? What is my right relationship with them? How do I become more like you in pondering this situation? Specifics seem to limit His response and I am asking Him to change me and my heart despite the circumstances. I think Jesus was in the business of change, real change like forgiveness, repentance, deliverance, healing. I don't want my small minded thoughts to limit the power of the Almighty One. I think following Jesus is more of Jesus and less of me and sometimes my thoughts, even my prayers may hinder that. To want to follow Him seems academic, to follow Him is life changing.

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• When Jesus called those men/women into a discipling relationship, there was no option to their learning obedience to his word/teachings. Apprenticeship to Jesus meant a relationship of student to Master. Follow me meant yoke up with me and learn from me. Becoming a seasoned and formed disciple of Jesus is not unlike a person wanting to be a Marine, who could not do so without coming under the strict disciplines of a DI and undergoing rigorous Boot Camp training. Only after sufficient training with sufficient personal responses could the man/woman call themselves a Marine…and only after such formative training would that person act like a Marine when under duress because they had become what they had aspired to be - without thinking about it.

• Learning obedience is primary and fundamental to being and becoming a disciple of Jesus. Such a learning curve means living in a Yes, Lord Jesus relationship. Jesus put it: Do not call me, Lord, and do the things that I tell you. Could this fundamental of relationship be made any clearer? There need not be any balking of the disciple due to their sense of inadequacy. When Jesus calls a person into this kind of relationship He is fully aware of the limitations of His unformed, malformed, inadequate novice. He makes this quite obvious by saying, I am the vine, you are the branches…without me you can do nothing. This is why the beginner must realize that his/her obedience to the Lord Jesus is formative, even transformative, and will ultimately result in their long-desired pursuit:

A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher and a servant like his master. – Matt. 10:24f

A disciple is not above his teacher, but every one when he is fully taught will be like his teacher. – Luke 6:40

• Jesus himself was the unrivaled, greatest disciple before he was designated Master. He perfectly learned from his Father. See Hebrews 5:7ff. Jesus fully pleased the Father and at the proper time was deputized God’s promised Messiah. Isaiah’s descript perfectly fits the Messiah-in-the-making:

The Lord God has given me the tongue of those who are instructed, to know how to sustain the weary with a word. He awakens me each morning; he awakens my ear to listen that those being instructed. The Lord God has opened my ear, and I was not rebellious; I did not turn back. I gave my back to those who beat me, and my cheeks to those who tore out my beard. I did not hide my face from scorn and spitting. The lord God will help me; therefore I have not been humiliated; therefore I have set my face like flint, and I know I will not be put to shame.

- Isaiah 50:4ff

When the three disciples heard the voice from heaven on the mount of transfiguration the message could not have been clearer:

This is my beloved Son. I take delight in Him. Listen to Him! – Matthew 17:5

That was to be their relationship to him. And listen does not mean be entertained. Hebrews 5:9.

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